Do dealers need to notify buyers about CTOs?
I just purchased several sets of Cuban stamps from a well known stamp dealer and they are definitely marked CTOs. Does a stamp dealer have to disclose that the stamps that you are purchasing are CTOs? I believe you cannot purchase Cuban stamps in mint condition after 1961 (the stamps I purchased are on or after 1970) does that make any difference?
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:-) kind of like buying drugs.. seller and buyer are charged but don't expect charges on a tiny roach from a joint.
If there were no images included in the listings you purchased from, then, yes, I think the dealer is obligated to identify them as CTO, not simply “Used.”
If there are images included, while I wouldn’t go so far as to say the dealer is obligated, I strongly believe they still “should” ID them as CTO. It is simply the ethical way to conduct business. I look askance at any dealer who does not identify obvious CTOs.
I have not seen any premium for non-CTO in the US stamps, at least not significant differences, however not sure how that impacts some of the world-wide stuff.
Whether the stamp has gum or not, does not change it's status as a cancelled stamp (where cancelled = used for the purpose of definition of condition of stamp).
This is where I learn, so if it seems a silly question, it probably is, but I would like to know for further listings.
Then again........
Linns: Canceled-to-order: "Stamps are ""canceled to order,'' usually in full sheets, by many governments. The cancels may be printed on the stamps at the same time that the stamp design is printed. A stamp with a cancel and with full gum is likely a CTO stamp, as CTOs do not see actual postal use. CTO stamps are sold to stamp dealers at large discounts from face value. Most catalogs say whether they price CTO stamps or genuinely used stamps."
PTS. Cancelled to order (Generally from PO "specimen" packs) hey they wrote it not me.....
MIMI CTO: (short for: cancelled-to-order) means that the stamp was pre-printed during the printing process with a seal resembling the cancellation used in postal use. Since the seal of use is pre-printed, this means that the stamps are never to be circulated postally or
Cancelled to order by issuing post office and has original gum but cancelled to "appear" Postally cancelled.
or
Cancelled to order by issuing post office and has original gum but cancelled to "appear" Postally cancelled.
and they go on and one I wont repeat it all
A stamp store ---- no names no pack drill --- - Cancelled to Order. (C.T.O) Stamps which have been cancelled with a postmark being withdrawn new issued for sale to collectors. Cancelled to order stamps are usually neatly cancelled.
New Zealand Philatelic Federation - Cancelled to Order 1) Term describing a stamp bearing a postmark applied “by favour” where a postal official would cancel the stamps in sheets or on covers and return them directly to the dealer or collector.
CTO's are in large part pariahs in the States whereas in parts of Europe, they are highly favored.
We all know the usual suspects for ctos. There are also ctos in unexpected places. I bought both of the first Luxembourg Europa sets as used, and found they were ctos. Oh well, lesson learned. Roughly half of my Liechtenstein used stamps are ctos. And I have two sets of Swiss semi-postals that are ctos. I wish all of these had been noted by the dealers, and now I wonder if these are thus less valuable.
Conversely. I have several hundred East German stamps soaked from kiloware and certainly postally used and if I were to sell them I would certainly brag about it.
Way to go!