Need help with ID

Luree Hughes · February 23

This stamp is eluding me. I cannot find the Imperf. If someone out there can help with Scott Number that would be appreciated.

Thank you for your help

Scott Payton · February 23

Looks like a proof, possibly with a fraudulent cancel applied.
I can only find another in 10c that is a proof pair listed as Scott #431, but not my area, so I could be wrong.

Luree Hughes · February 23

I saw that 431 listed in the catalogue, but that has perf's and I saw nothing about an Imperf. Colnect and eBay don't have it listed. I didn't check Delcampe, I will do that.

But in the meantime, might be a proof. I do have two of them with different cancels.

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Okay, I'm sorry I didn't check all avenues before coming out here! I found it on Delcampe. It is actually a cut square.

That's what I get from not taking a much needed break!

Phil Atarium · February 23

What about a cut square from postal stationery?

I don't have a Higgins & Gage handy, but if someone does, they could check and see if there was an envelope or wrapper issued that this could be taken from.

Luree Hughes · February 23

Phil, that is what I found. A cut square. Had me banging my head. Plus a headache was already active!

It looks like what I'd call an Aerogram for the US, so not necessarily an "envelope" per se. Yea, I guess that would be a wrapper.

Thanks for confirming. Appreciate you.

Scott Payton · February 23

Ah, that explains the margins. And the cancel.

Franz Krieger · February 23

It is a cut square of Higgins & Gage Wrapper # 58. Cat.v. .50 for entire.

Franz Krieger · February 23

Value dates 1970

Luree Hughes · February 23

Thank you, Franz. Very helpful information.

Higgins & Gage, I'm not familiar with, is this only for Argentina?

Michael Duehr · February 23

Luree,

It's a specialized cat for postal stationary.

Luree Hughes · February 23

Thank you. Lots learned today.

Phil Atarium · February 24

Luree: It was a very ambitious attempt at a comprehensive catalog for worldwide postal stationery. It was published in various volumes. I bought it from Subway supply in probably the early 90's. And then the publishing just kind of petered out, as best as I could tell.

I understand that a German or Swiss auction house bought it, I assume with plans to restart it, but, as far as I know, that did not happen.

I'm sure someone can fill in the details that I don't know.

Glad we could all collaborate on that. Almost felt like the old days on here!

Luree Hughes · February 24

Yes, it did feel like old times. I kinda miss that. But really great learning experience for me. I did snoop it out on Amazon and eBay, interesting books there. \

Do you know if they made one for US postal stationery?

Scott Payton · February 24

Luree,
There are essentially 2 books that cover US Postal Stationary. First, the Scott US Specialized Catalog has full listings of all the US issues, and there is another book for Postal Stationary Essays and Proofs, which is the Catalog of United States Stamped Envelope Essays and Proofs. It is in 2nd edition updated 2019, by Dan Undersander. It was published by the United Postal Stationary Society.

Luree Hughes · February 24

Perfect as I have the Scott US Specialized. Thank you

Scott Payton · February 24

Which year Luree?

Luree Hughes · February 24

2021 digital. I have the real paper catalogue for 2011 and 2013.

Scott Payton · February 25

Stick with the 2021 digital. It's also the last edition to have the "Yellow Pages" section starting around page 385 that lists values for different centering from VG to SUP. Very handy for accurate pricing of issues from 1 to 834 (after 834, Scott doesn't follow values for graded stamps, except for the 1053).
That catalog also has the S in a red circle indicator for "Do Not Soak" as these are self-adhesive stamps, and use a different glue (polarized) which requires something to break it down. (i.e. water will not change the state, in the same way that lighter fluid doesn't change the state of gum on lick and stick stamps). Interestingly, lighter fluid WILL break down that adhesive, but it's a sticky mess.

I have successfully soaked off "Do not soak" listed stamps by putting them into a bowl of room temperature water, and leaving them for 3+ days at a time. You can coax them off with a tong with pretty good success rates, and then wipe the back down with lighter fluid to get any remaining gum off if you're really inclined to remove them. A stiffer backing helps too (i.e. better success rate) than just a plane white envelope though. Pick your battles.

Jeri Stathas · February 25

I have the best luck removing S/A stamps from envelopes using this method which has been on "You Tube" for quite some time.

Pure Citrus Air Freshener (comes in a spray can, you can get it at Walmart. You need the Orange or Citrus scent.

Cut the stamp from envelope and spray the back, wait a few minutes and the stamp will remove.

Place the stamp gum side up on a hard, flat, smooth surface, I use a small piece of plexiglass, and sprinkle back lightly with talcum powder.

Use an old credit card, or similar straight edge, to remove the adhesive from the stamp. When I'm finished I give all the stamps a quick bath just to remove any residue and place in soaking book.

WD40 has a pen that works great also but it's rather expensive compared to the Orange Citrus.

Scott Payton · February 25

Yeah, not available outside the US...

Rene Bravo · February 26

Will straight acetone or hexane work ( brake cleaners ) for example?

Scott Payton · February 26

acetone should, but not sure of their chemical impact on inks.

Michael Duehr · February 26

Acetone will break down certain types of inks. I wouldn't use it on stamps.

Rene Bravo · March 7

Thanks all for the suggestions on removing the gum on the modern stickers issued by the usps . Generally , I do not collect them at all , but will try several techniques.

Kris Weinschenker · March 8

I guess you don't allow emoticon s......that's no fun

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