Paypal - any suggestions?

Many of you know my wife passed recently. I have taken over her store in my name - she had dementia for the last decade but I kept the store and Paypal account in her name which made her feel good. My Paypal account had not been used in years, so now they put a hold on transaction payments. The last straw was a hold on a $2.10 sale.

They do not have an email address and make it clear that their customer service reps are unable to discuss the hold program. I am going to send them a letter which will probably not even be read. It is copied below. Anyone have any suggestions as to how to stop them from picking up the 20 day float on every transaction? Or anything that might be better left unsaid.

“Paypal Headquarters
2211 N. 1st St.
San Jose, CA 95131

Dear Sirs

Just asking why you would put a hold on a $2.10 transaction.

We have been in business since 1985. We were on Ebay from 1998 to 2007 when Donohoe took over and we left with over 4000 feedback at 100%.

We then moved to Hipstamp and currently have over 15000 feedback at 100%.

https://www.hipstamp.com/display-feedback/webpaper

The Paypal account had been in my wife’s name - She died March 31st so I had to create new tax accounts and a new Paypal account. There is a balance of around $300 in her account which I guess will be forfeited because after 52 years of marriage it is the only thing that was not in both our names. Our lawyer quoted $3500 to make me executor and $1500 to make me administrator - as he said - not worth it for $300.

And you are putting a hold on me for $2.10. Please tell me when you anticipate this nonsense might stop. I am growing a bit weary of being treated like a petulant 4 year old. I am 73 years old with a background in corporate America, teaching business courses (Syracuse University) and close to 20 years of Federal service. APS member since 1985.

Sincerely

Henry Brooks
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX”

Thanks for any advice

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  • Henry,

    I am not sure if this is what you are looking for. This is as posted on Paypal

    https://www.paypal.com/us/brc/article/funds-availability

    Most businesses will experience a time when their funds become unavailable, also known as a payment hold.
    In this article, you’ll learn more what a payment hold is, why it happens, and how to resolve it.

    Why are my funds inaccessible or on hold?
    PayPal may place a hold or restrict your account activity if we need a little more information from you about a transaction, your business or your account activity. Some of the reasons why we might need this information include:
    You’re a first-time seller. When you’re a new PayPal seller, it takes time to build up enough history to demonstrate a pattern of positive buyer-seller transactions. The good news is you can usually move out of this status by confirming your identity and building up a history of positive selling activity.
    You haven’t sold in a while. When your selling activity has been dormant for a long time, it’ll also take time to rebuild a history of positive buyer-seller transactions.
    Multiple customers filed for a refund, dispute, or chargeback. If multiple customers file for a refund, dispute or chargeback, it can delay the availability of your funds. The best way to resolve this is to work directly with your customers to prevent, or solve, disputes and chargebacks. Sometimes it’s possible your customer filed for a refund, dispute, or chargeback because someone illegally used their PayPal account to buy something. We ask that you hold off on shipping any items when this happens.
    Your selling pattern appears unusual or changed. An unusual sales activity includes: a recent spike in sales or a change in your average selling price, business platform or type of item being sold.
    You’re selling higher risk items. Higher risk items can include tickets, gift cards, consumer electronics, computers and travel packages. You can also read our User Agreement for more information on other holds and reserves we may place on your account.

    How long will PayPal hold your funds for?
    Your funds are usually held for up to of 21 days. However, there are several things you can do to expedite this timeline.

    You can also read our User Agreement for more information on other holds and reserves we may place on your account.

    What you can do to access your money sooner.
    Assuming there are no issues with the order, you may be able to expedite the release of temporarily unavailable funds sooner than the scheduled 21 days by taking any of these actions from your PayPal account:

    Action Time to release What you need to do
    Print a USPS or UPS shipping label 1 day after delivery Print a USPS or UPS shipping label from your PayPal account. This will automatically update your tracking information and delivery confirmation.
    Add tracking information 1 day after delivery with supported carriers. See chart below for supported carriers. Upload a supported carriers’ tracking number. PayPal will release the payment within three days of the carrier confirming delivery.

    PayPal Supported Carriers in the United States as of June 18, 2020:
    DHL eCommerce US
    DHL Express (Piece ID)
    Echo
    Ensenda
    Expeditors
    FedEx
    Globegistics Inc.
    MailAmericas
    Newgistics
    OnTrac
    RL Carriers
    RRD International Logistics U.S.A
    UPS
    USPS
    How can you prevent the delay of available funds?
    There are four things you can do to help prevent a delay of available funds in the future:

    1. Review the email we send and the alert in your account overview.

    2. If a buyer pays you and the payment isn’t immediately available, we’ll notify you via an email titled “An important message about your PayPal balance” or via an alert in your Account Overview page. This email or alert will be the best source of information about why your payment isn’t available and what you may be able to do to prevent the delay of available funds in the future.

    3. Prevent refunds, disputes, and chargebacks by:
    Setting yourself up for success by posting actual photos and detailed, accurate descriptions of items so buyers know exactly what they’re getting.
    Being clear about shipping and handling time, costs, and methods; process orders promptly to avoid delays.
    Packing items carefully with appropriate, quality packing material, so customers receive the items in good condition.
    Uploading tracking information of our supported carriers or printing a USPS/UPS shipping label through PayPal.
    Clearly defining your return policy upfront to avoid problems later.
    4. Communicate and work with your customers.
    When customers contact you, do your best to be responsive and helpful. Working with customers early on can prevent a minor issue from ballooning into a much larger problem, and following the guidelines listed previously will help to reduce the number of buyer disputes, claims, and chargebacks. If you are involved in a buyer dispute, start working to resolve it right away. Frequent, honest, and open communication with the buyer via the Resolution Center can help clear up any misunderstanding.
    5. Set up a customer service message.
    Also, setting up a customer service message in the Resolution Center may help to prevent disputes. For example, if shipments will be delayed because of a hurricane in your region, letting the buyer know may answer their question and make a dispute unnecessary.
    Selling on eBay.
    If you sell on eBay, take a look at these eBay-specific tips for managing your seller performance rating.
  • edited June 2022 0 LikesVote Down
    Michael

    I am aware of all that. I guess after 37 continuous YEARS in business (and an APS member all those years) I don't like being treated like a child. The business has been on Hipstamp and predecessors since 2007 and has over 15000 feedback at 100%. It would have been a lot higher if I was not a 24/7 caregiver for the last few years.

    How am I to track a $2.10 order? The first hold was on a $40 order and when tracking showed it delivered and I received positive feedback I tried to notify them of that. There is no way to do so, they make it impossible to COMMUNICATE with them.

    I can live with a 20 day hold but why should they get the float? It adds up to a lot of money they are "earning" from other people's money - legal, yes - ethical - not in my opinion. I spent 20 years with the SBA helping small businesses survive - it is not always easy.

    I suppose the easiest thing to do is to toss in the towel and go back to getting together with a few of the high end dealers at someones house a couple of times a year. No fuss, no trips to the post office and my annual gross would at least triple or better. But I enjoy the time spent working on stamps.

    Tough call/


  • Henry,

    They are NOT treating you any different than anyone who signs up for a new account or someone starting back up an inactive account after a long period of time. They will remove the holds after so many transactions that go through without any problems. Just give it a little bit of time and and some transactions and they should lift the hold.



  • We shall see - there still should be some vehicle to be able to communicate with them .... no email address, CSR;s told not to answer any questions on holds, etc are pretty poor business practices but they are the biggest game in town if one desires to play on the internet.
  • Michael - I just opened a new Hipstamp store and sold my first item today (Yea!!). Excitement turned to questions when I saw the note from Paypal about the hold due to new accounts. I read the details you provided above and understand the procedure. I see they have some solutions to get out of hold early - USPS tracking, etc. -- but I am selling very low value stuff and am offering free shipping for now to make the product more attractive (I have lots of stamps to use for postage) -- I don't want to use tracking, etc. Should I just "suffer" thru the hold periods until I get enough sales that they are comfortable with me? I have no problem sending the stamp and receiving funds later. I was just curious how many sales it will take before they release this hold process. Any guidance on this? Thanks in advance.
  • The PayPal "hold" seems quite random to me. Happens once in every few months. Always has cleared within a day or two. They don't explain why the hold and it happens with repeat customers for me as well as brand new customers. I don't worry about it anymore. It will clear shortly. And congrats on your first sale.
  • Greg - thanks for the quick note back. However, they state that the hold is on me as the seller. They note that as a new seller (even though I have had an account as a buyer for years now), I am a risk to their buying customers until I create track record. They say the hold will be for 21 days before the money is released to me. Like I said in earlier note - I can deal with that - just wanted to know how many sales they will take before it stops. I assume you can't contact Paypal to find that out (that would be too convenient). Anyway - any other thoughts appreciated.
  • Oh I see. I think I kind of remember that happening when I first broke out too but it was still a short resolution. They might have stated something like "up to" 21 days. I still wouldn't worry about it much though.
  • Awesome - thanks a lot. I will suffer thru it!
  • It will be alright....suffering is part of this gig. LOL!!!!!
  • Still holding after 2 and a half months just put a 21 day hold on a net $1.31 transaction due to risk, just like the two yesterday at over $50 each - amount of sale does not matter. Nor does total figure of amount in Paypal account and bank account (over $500).
    Frustrating when I used to work for the government in a fiduciary capacity and underwent occasional security clearances. What is frustrating is the inability to make contact.
  • Mark,

    If I remember correctly Paypal will do a review after 90 days and at that point they will usually remove the "new" seller holds at that time.
  • Yikes Henry - I hope that Michael is right and that you get your money in about 15 days!!!!
    I only have about 88 days left! LOL
  • You can have an online chat with PayPal. I've had to contact PayPal a few times, and it was always quick and easy.
  • UPDATE - Paypal released the hold on my account after about 2 weeks and 4 purchases! Rhyme or Reason - NONE!
  • I was having issues with them putting hold on my phones as well but what I did is I clicked on the little discussion box in the right lower corner where you can talk to the computer/helper and through verifying my identity they were able to remove the holds on all my funds immediately
  • Started to release mine ( 3 months) but they have been under $10. One would think with over 15000 feedback @ 100 per cent they would know I am not going anywhere.
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